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carrera d'olbani
#1 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2007 1:51:04 AM
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What is the best resolution to play Half-Life 2 (including
Deathmatch) ? Is 1440x900 enough to see the enemies at a distance ? I
am currently using a 16" LCD monitor with the resolution 1680x1050,
and I cannot complain. I consider to get another monitor cheaply, and
the 19" LG L194WT (withe the resolution 1440x900) would sit just at
the edge of my computer table. I could get a 20" model with the
resolution 1680x1050, but I am afraid that I have to put it too far
from me so that it wouldn't fit on the table. What would people say ?

SpokaneRGH
#2 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2007 7:02:38 AM
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For fastest screen play/redraw.

No matter what kind of monitor you use (LCD or CRT) for the fastest
screen redraw, reduce your color depth.

How to: in WinXP
Open "Display" in Control panel.
Click on "Setting" Tab.
In "Color Quality" reduce to "Medium (16 bit)
Click "Apply"

Results: Twice as fast screen results, due to less processing power
needed. Also helpful for those who don't wish to buy a faster video
card. Anyone that claims they need or 32 bit color is better, needs to
clean their crack pipe, because the human eye cant distinguish a
difference, its physically impossible.

Rôgêr
#3 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2007 8:09:49 AM
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carrera d'olbani wrote:
> What is the best resolution to play Half-Life 2 (including
> Deathmatch) ? Is 1440x900 enough to see the enemies at a distance ? I
> am currently using a 16" LCD monitor with the resolution 1680x1050,
> and I cannot complain. I consider to get another monitor cheaply, and
> the 19" LG L194WT (withe the resolution 1440x900) would sit just at
> the edge of my computer table. I could get a 20" model with the
> resolution 1680x1050, but I am afraid that I have to put it too far
> from me so that it wouldn't fit on the table. What would people say ?

Bigger tables are cheap.
McG.
#4 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2007 9:04:42 AM
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"carrera d'olbani" <dolbani@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> What is the best resolution to play Half-Life 2 (including
> Deathmatch) ? Is 1440x900 enough to see the enemies at a distance ? I
> am currently using a 16" LCD monitor with the resolution 1680x1050,
> and I cannot complain. I consider to get another monitor cheaply, and
> the 19" LG L194WT (withe the resolution 1440x900) would sit just at
> the edge of my computer table. I could get a 20" model with the
> resolution 1680x1050, but I am afraid that I have to put it too far
> from me so that it wouldn't fit on the table. What would people say ?
>

With what I do in photography and 3D stuff, I use two Samsung 204B 20.1" LCD
flatpanel displays side by side. The desk my rig, pair of monitors and
flatbed scanner reside on is 6 1/2 feet long and 3feet deep. Monitors are
both plugged into one of my two 7800GTX 256 meg cards on the DVI ports, and
both run in native resolution of 1600 x 1200 - 32 bit depth.
When gaming, I've long since left off using SLI mode as it fouls everything
up on the desktop when coming out of SLI. I should pull one 7800GTX out and
run the PCI-e 0 slot at 16x. The bottom card isn't doing anything now
anyway.

SO FAR; running all the games at 1600x1200 full screen 32 bit looks really
nice. HL2 (and mods), HL2 Deathmatch look great and play very smooth. I
have all the eye candy on and maxed, this is the Options recommended
settings for my rig.
The rest of your rig will help determine just how smooth the game will play
for you. This rig is a A64 X2 4800+ in a GA K8 N SLI mobo, 2 gigs pc3200
ram, several 160 gig hd's. The HL2 vid stress test put the framerates in
the 70's with just one vid card, and in the high 90's with SLI enabled.
This is at 1600x1200 resolution.
McG.


carrera d'olbani
#5 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:40:46 PM
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On Jul 1, 1:04 am, "McG." <McGrandpa...@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

> SO FAR; running all the games at 1600x1200 full screen 32 bit looks really
> nice. HL2 (and mods), HL2 Deathmatch look great and play very smooth.

Today I went to Best Buys and had a look at the monitor. The 20"
monitors from Acer and from HP gave a decently pleasing picture,
although if the picture was a little bit worse, it would not be
acceptable to me anymore. I had a look at the 19" monitor LG L194WT --
the quality of the pictures is worse, I would say inacceptable to me.
I believe the reason is that the L194WT monitor has a pixel pitch of
0.285 mm, while the 20" LG L204WT monitor has a finer pixel pitch of
0.253 mm. However, there are no LG L204WT monitors on sale, so that I
could not have a look at one.

Just because of the more coarse pitch, the 19" LG monitor has to be
kept farther away on my desk than the 20" LG monitor. I would prefer
the 20" LG monitor (L204WT). Unfortunately, I have already ordered the
19" LG monitor; it is on its way to me. That was unwise choice. Damn !

Ben Cottrell
#6 Posted : Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:32:25 PM
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SpokaneRGH wrote:
>
> For fastest screen play/redraw.
>
> No matter what kind of monitor you use (LCD or CRT) for the fastest
> screen redraw, reduce your color depth.
>
> How to: in WinXP
> Open "Display" in Control panel.
> Click on "Setting" Tab.
> In "Color Quality" reduce to "Medium (16 bit)
> Click "Apply"
>
> Results: Twice as fast screen results, due to less processing power
> needed.

That won't do anything, because Half-Life 2 doesn't use the windows XP
display settings, it has its own video card configuration screen.
Modifying the HL2 settings might on the other hand.


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Texan_2112
#7 Posted : Sunday, July 01, 2007 1:37:40 AM
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"FoolsGold" <fg@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> SpokaneRGH wrote:
>>
>> For fastest screen play/redraw.
>>
>> No matter what kind of monitor you use (LCD or CRT) for the fastest
>> screen redraw, reduce your color depth.
>>
>> How to: in WinXP
>> Open "Display" in Control panel.
>> Click on "Setting" Tab.
>> In "Color Quality" reduce to "Medium (16 bit)
>> Click "Apply"
>>
>> Results: Twice as fast screen results, due to less processing power
>> needed. Also helpful for those who don't wish to buy a faster video
>> card. Anyone that claims they need or 32 bit color is better, needs
>> to
>> clean their crack pipe, because the human eye cant distinguish a
>> difference, its physically impossible.
>
> This is one reason why I like Usenet - the crazy people come out to
> play. They so crazy! :)

Two words: gradients.


pc games
#8 Posted : Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:02:54 AM
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On Jun 30, 10:51 am, carrera d'olbani <dolb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

<snip>

Oh yeah STEAM LOVER you do that, you buy a monitor just to play STEAM
INFECTED HL2
And like your Master Valve has ordered you, don't you DARE play
anything else!

PS: Next time leave the c.s.i.p.g.action group out of your stupid
STEAM INFECT question OK!

FoolsGold
#9 Posted : Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:22:12 AM
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carrera d'olbani wrote:
> What is the best resolution to play Half-Life 2 (including
> Deathmatch) ? Is 1440x900 enough to see the enemies at a distance ? I
> am currently using a 16" LCD monitor with the resolution 1680x1050,
> and I cannot complain. I consider to get another monitor cheaply, and
> the 19" LG L194WT (withe the resolution 1440x900) would sit just at
> the edge of my computer table. I could get a 20" model with the
> resolution 1680x1050, but I am afraid that I have to put it too far
> from me so that it wouldn't fit on the table. What would people say ?

I didn't know you could get 16" LCD monitors that can do 1680x1050. If
so the pixels must be pretty damn small.

I use a 20" LCD at 1680x1050, and I can tell you there's absolutely no
need to put it any further back than a normal monitor. The whole point
of widescreen is so you can utilize your peripheral vision - you cannot
do this if the monitor is far away.
Ben Cottrell
#10 Posted : Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:53:38 PM
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Texan_2112 wrote:

>>This is one reason why I like Usenet - the crazy people come out to
>>play. They so crazy! :)
>
>
> Two words: gradients.

What's the second?



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FoolsGold
#11 Posted : Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:05:39 PM
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SpokaneRGH wrote:
>
> For fastest screen play/redraw.
>
> No matter what kind of monitor you use (LCD or CRT) for the fastest
> screen redraw, reduce your color depth.
>
> How to: in WinXP
> Open "Display" in Control panel.
> Click on "Setting" Tab.
> In "Color Quality" reduce to "Medium (16 bit)
> Click "Apply"
>
> Results: Twice as fast screen results, due to less processing power
> needed. Also helpful for those who don't wish to buy a faster video
> card. Anyone that claims they need or 32 bit color is better, needs to
> clean their crack pipe, because the human eye cant distinguish a
> difference, its physically impossible.

This is one reason why I like Usenet - the crazy people come out to
play. They so crazy! :)
Benjamin Gawert
#12 Posted : Monday, July 02, 2007 4:41:05 AM
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* SpokaneRGH:

> No matter what kind of monitor you use (LCD or CRT) for the fastest
> screen redraw, reduce your color depth.
>
> How to: in WinXP
> Open "Display" in Control panel.
> Click on "Setting" Tab.
> In "Color Quality" reduce to "Medium (16 bit)
> Click "Apply"
>
> Results: Twice as fast screen results, due to less processing power
> needed.

Yeah, sure. Of course you totally ignore that most somewhat modern GPUs
(GF3 and up) always do 24bit /32bit calculations internally no matter
what you set desktop color depth to, so going back to 16bit doesn't help
a yota.

Your hint was valuable maybe 8 years ago. Today it's not. Especially
since desktop settings have nothing to do with what is used by games as
the majority of games use their own setting.

> Also helpful for those who don't wish to buy a faster video
> card. Anyone that claims they need or 32 bit color is better, needs to
> clean their crack pipe, because the human eye cant distinguish a
> difference, its physically impossible.

Even people with somewhat average vision can distinguish between 16bit
and 24bit/32bit easily. If you can't I'd recommend you go and see an eye
doctor.

Benjamin
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